
Although they might not say it in so many words, that time-tested âone chance to make a first impressionâ adage seems to be extremely critical to wealth management professionals when they initially sit down with a first-time investor.
Over and over again, wealth managers stress that any agreement to handle a clientâs investments and his or her financial futureâsometimes every penny theyâve acquired in their livesâis routinely based on trust and the rather nebulous âcomfort levelâ that can be established between the manager and the âprospect,â from that first encounter right through a long, comfortable retirement.
Relationship emerges as paramount because many of the services provided by wealth managers are closely regulated and, in many ways, duplicate those offered by the firm next door or around the corner.
Wealth managers typically offer a broad menu of services that include financial, retirement and estate planning, investment advice on stocks and bonds, business-succession planning, optimizing the return when a business is sold, tax strategies, creating trusts and, perhaps, establishing a special account that might cover college tuition for a grandchild or a cash gift on a milestone birthday.
But even an extensive array of services and attractive management fees rarely trump one-on-one relationships, most managers said.
âItâs all about finding the right fit,â said Pamela F. Thompson, managing director and senior wealth advisor for Mariner Wealth Advisors, which has 94 offices across the country, including Louisville, New Albany, Ind., and Cincinnati. âAs much as the things we talk about are financialâstocks and bonds and taxes and planning and all thatâitâs really a people business as much as the rest (of the financial services). Itâs really about finding the right fit with an advisor because thereâs a tremendous amount of trust that goes into that relationship.â
Thompson oversees the Louisville and New Albany offices and has an office in Cincinnati. In addition, she has served as one of nine members of the Kentucky Retirement System board for the last couple of years.
âYou have to sit down and talk,â Thompson adds. âItâs not like thereâs one magic question (where they say), âYeah, youâre a good fit for me.ââ
Patty Breeze, president and owner of Breeze Financial in Lexington, agrees.
âPeople will say, âI really want somebody to sit down and talk to me face to face.â There are a lot of these robo-advisors out there, but I think people still want that personal touch.â
From Breezeâs perspective, thereâs minimal person-to-person interaction with a ârobo-advisorâ who merely plugs a clientâs information into a computer and waits for the software to make recommendations, all calculated online.
âIt is extremely important to establish a good relationship with a prospective client, and the relationship must be based on mutual trust. All our clients are considered friends at different levels,â said Stephen L. Grossman, managing director, financial advisor and branch manager for the Lexington office of Baird Private Wealth Management, which has 155 offices in the U.S. and a track record that dates back more than 100 years.
Where to start
âThe whole notion of finances and wealth management and financial planningâif thatâs not what you do (on a regular basis), it can be overwhelming,â said Angela C. Coleman, a fiduciary, investment advisor and certified financial planner with American Trust Wealth in Lexington.
âPeople will come in and ask, âWhere do we start? I donât even know what the first step is,â Coleman said. âA lot of people seem a little embarrassed to ask some general (financial) questions. If an advisor makes you feel like your questions are not good questions, silly or naĂŻve, then thatâs not the advisor you need to work with.â
Steven L. Frank lives in Covington and works as managing director of investments for Skyline Wealth Consulting Group of Wells Fargo Advisors in Cincinnati. A former Covington city commissioner, Frank is also a certified financial planner.
âWeâve taken the approach of building a multigenerational practice that is able to service our original clients, their children and grandchildren, but even here we are selective about adding new relationships,â Frank said. âWe will add new relationships, but they have to be a good match for what it is we do.â
A good relationship with your advisor comes from trust, said C. Kelly Buckley, managing principal and director of asset management for Spectrum Financial Alliance.
âTrust is earned and should begin with concrete evidence of past achieved performance excellence and outstanding service,â he said.
Buckley provided a six-point checklist that investors should use when evaluating an investment firm. Three of those bullet points zero in on returning phone calls and emails promptly and communicating frequently with clients.
The advice, counseling and planning expertise on wealth managersâ services menus reflect how the business has changed in a relatively short time span, Grossman said.
âBack when I started, you were charging for the transactions (buying and selling securities, for example), but giving away your advice for free. Now we give away the trading and the transaction side for free and we charge for the advice. That transition has been going on for 25 years,â Grossman said. Today, he said, Bairdâs emphasis is âcomprehensive wealth management.â
From all indications, Kentuckians value the expertise of Milwaukee-based Baird. The Louisville office ranks second in the country and the Lexington office, which has grown explosively with Grossman at the helm, ranks seventh.

What the new client should askÂ
After talking with and/or exchanging emails with six financial advisors for this interview, it became clear that itâs difficult to nail down exactly what question might be at the top of the list during a prospective clientâs initial meeting. One reason it might be tough to pinpoint is that 99% of the time the prospect has accumulated some degree of wealth and, presumably, has some level of financial savvy. Other clients might have plenty of investment acumen because theyâre simply moving from one manager to another.
Frank, with Skyline Wealth, said routine questions focus on experience, philosophy, scope of the financial practice and what the management service will cost.
Coleman said key questions for a first-time investor should establish whether the firm is a fiduciary and details about the fee structure.
âMost of our clients have general goals. The majority are defining their goal as, âI want to make sure I can live a comfortable life without running out of moneyâŠâ (Thatâs) the most common goal,â said Marinerâs Thompson.
People want to make sure they have enough money to take care of themselves and their families, Grossman said.
Nearly all, even if theyâre in their 20s or 30s, want to start saving money that will help them when they eventually retire, Breeze said, and those getting close to retirement want to make sure that they donât outlive their money. Others want to save so they can start their own business or help someone who is disabled, she said.
The fiduciary approachÂ
Most of the wealth managers interviewed stressed that their firms are fiduciaries, a designation that appears to be used more and more frequently because of the seemingly endless TV commercials for Fisher Investments, a $205 billion firm in Plano, Texas, that hammers home its pledge to put the clientâs interests before those of the company. Fisherâs consistent message is: âWe do better when our clients do better.â
âWe are a registered investment advisory (RIA) firm, which is different from brokerage firms. We are a fiduciary 100%âlegally obligated to do only whatâs in their (a clientâs) best interest. End of story,â Thompson said.
âWhen we talk about wealth management professionals, we are only talking about people who operate as a 100% fiduciary and receive no income whatsoever from commission products, no sales incentive trips, no dinners paid for by the investment company or wholesalers, etc. In other words, no inducements to affect our independent professional judgment,â said Buckley of Spectrum, which is an RIA located just outside of Lexington in Nicholasville.
American Trust is also a fiduciary.
âWe were certified as a fiduciary before it was kind of the in thing to be, before it was it was just a buzzword in the industry,â said Coleman. âWe were taking our obligation to put the clientâs interest very seriously above our own long before we were ever required to.â
Besides offering similar services and sharing similar attitudes about establishing drama-free relationships, there are also some similarities among the different firms in terms of investment minimums and the fees that are charged.
With the exception of Breeze and Coleman, managers said they typically work with clients who have at least $500,000 in an investment portfolio.
What size portfolio is needed to work with an advisor?Â
Thompson said a typical client for her will have a portfolio of $1 million while Skyline Wealthâs Frank said the âsweet spotâ for his firm generally is between $500,000 and $5 million. Grossman said most of Bairdâs portfolios are in the range of $1 million to $1.5 million, while Buckley said Spectrum has a minimum investment of $500,000 with a median net worth of about $1 million for clients.
Breeze said she works with some people who have less than $100,000 to invest and that the average investment portfolio she handles is between $200,000 and $250,000. However, some clients have âseveral millionâ under her management, she added.
Coleman said American Trust looks for a minimum of $300,000 in âinvestable assetsâ although it does offer a program that serves investors with just $50,000 as long as they agree to add to that total on a regular basis. âWe pay close attention to emerging affluents who are just starting to build a portfolio,â Coleman said, adding that some of these clients recently landed their first âreal job.â
Most of the firms said fees are set as a percentage of the overall portfolio and range from a low of about 0.5% to a high somewhere around 1.5%. And although it might seem counterintuitive, higher fees are paid by clients with smaller portfolios because it can, in theory, take just as long to manage a small portfolio as it does for one thatâs 10 times larger.
Charging that higher fee for smaller investors creates some uniform compensation for wealth managers who are then paid about the same for working on all portfolios, regardless of their size.
Over and over, the managers stressed that the investment minimums and the fees arenât chiseled in stone and can be negotiated. Some firms also provide some reduced fees and minimums for members of an investorâs family.
Life events trigger finding an advisorÂ
Besides planning for a comfortable retirement, managers said there are myriad reasons why people seek help with their finances.
Skyline Wealthâs Frank said it is usually prompted by a life eventâsuch as a job change, birth of a child or grandchild, a divorce or an inheritanceâor perhaps a conversation with their CPA or attorney.
Buckley said a huge percentage of his new clients are referred by existing clients. âUsually, the person referred is in a tough spot, financially, due to gross mistakes by a nonwealth management professional advisor,â he said.
âWe do have higher net worth clients who are new investors if theyâve had a liquidity eventâ such as selling a business or receiving an inheritance, said Marinerâs Thompson, adding that some people never sit down with an advisor until retirement is imminent.
Some people âare just making decisions following some hot tip or watching (Jim) Cramer on CNBC and then realize that this is not a good strategy for their life savings,â she said.
Grossman also mentioned the sale of a business or a year in which income soared unexpectedly as âeventsâ that might prompt someone to seek help from a pro.
âSometimes you have to have some difficult conversations with people. They might have thought that they could retire in three years, but they really canât do it. Theyâre either going to have to work longer, save more or a combination thereof. The No. 1 caveat for most people to retire is to be out of debt,â he said.
Grossman recalled working with one couple who had high net worth combined with a rather lavish lifestyle. Grossman said he told them they couldnât continue their lifestyle in retirement unless they reduced spending dramatically.
âThey said, âWe kinda thought that. We just wanted to hear it from someone else,ââ Grossman said.